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Matteo
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7/08/2002
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This is not good.

http://www.catholicexchange.com/vm/index.asp?vm_id=31&art_id=14360




Jason Eubanks
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7/08/2002
13:42:49
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This is rather odd given that the EU will dominate the court. They've made no secret their intentions to criminalize opposition to abortion calling it a crime against human rights. I don't really know what the Vatican is thinking.


Matteo
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7/09/2002
12:51:16
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This is why the UN and the EU should cease to exist.


Jason Eubanks
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7/09/2002
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Speaking of the EU, there is a spat developing between Greece and the EU over Mt. Athos and the monks' ban on women. It's sad. The monks have inhabited Mt. Athos with generally the same monastic rules for over a thousand years and longer, in fact, than the existence of any state in the EU. This fact, however, means absolutely nothing to the EU. The EU truly satisfies the peculiar European fetish for totalitarian political systems.


Matteo
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7/09/2002
15:37:16
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I remember of reading about Mount Athos and its monks.

But of course the EU, the UN, and Liberalism has no regard for tradition.


Jim Kalb
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7/10/2002
21:00:35
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It looks as if they've decided that One World is the coming thing and think they can do best by working with it. From my standpoint the problem is that the One World that's coming is altogether too unified and the principal of unity is something that neither they nor anyone else should support.


Matteo
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7/11/2002
13:54:39
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George Will wrote a good editorial about the ICC today.

If only more could realise the truth.


Jim Kalb
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7/17/2002
14:05:33
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This area seems to me one (of many) in which the Vatican has applied post-Vatican II openness to the modern world in a mindless way. Here's another: the inviolable right to a proper diet, to be enforced by international intervention. The Pope's an admirable man, but it seems to me his notions of what can be achieved are far too ambitious to the point of very serious imprudence.


Brian T. Hickey
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7/17/2002
19:07:45
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There has long been a kind of cosiness between some continental Catholics and the EU - going back, I suppose, to the days when solid Catholics like Adenauer and De Gaulle were running it and leftists looked on it with suspicion. Two years ago I was visiting a German Christian Democrat Party headquarters in a fairly conservative Catholic town in the Rhineland, and they had an enormous EU flag in the window. Sad really. But as the EU becomes ever-nuttier (not to mention aggresively anti-life) the more sensible among such people will become disillusioned.


Jim Kalb
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7/18/2002
07:59:59
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The CDU may get with the program instead of becoming disillusioned. Here's what they're doing now.


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