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Steve Gosling
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7/20/2002
05:56:31
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 Subject: Limitation of the right to vote
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Given the low voter turnout in recent elections, might this be a good time for Paleos to suggest a limitation on the classes of persons who can vote and at the same time repeal the 17th Amendment.Two measures that will contribute greatly to a return to the republican ethos.
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Ian Hare
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7/23/2002
16:13:52
| RE: Limitation of the right to vote
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As a foreigner with some admiration for the intent behind the U.S. constitution--to form a "mixed" polity--I think it might be better to attempt to establish a genuinely independent Electoral College for choosing the President, as seems to have been originally envisaged. This might require giving the college members tenure in office and perhaps having them vote in secret ballot as well. Realistically, though, is there any prospect of any constitutional reform other than further in the direction of unlimited democracy?
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Steve Gosling
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7/24/2002
07:17:46
| RE: Limitation of the right to vote
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Constitutional reform is possible,if we are willing to face the the dire consequnces of the retention and extension of mass democracy; the mass of the people are little interested in the moral purpose or design of the polity; they are motivated by their appetites and are little concerned with the higher ends of life either in their own lives or in that of the state.As long as their troughs are full they will follow anthing that moves. We must dispel the belief that having the vote is the only form of true representation.
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Ian Hare
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7/25/2002
14:51:47
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The problem for the conservative reformer is probably the mass of the leftist opinion-formers rather than the mass of the people.
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Steve Gosling
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7/26/2002
07:17:59
| RE: Limitation of the right to vote
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The center of gravity in this arguement is, I believe the natural state of inequality amongst men and the acceptance of this when assessing public institutions and in presenting an alternative to the 'whig interpretation' of history. Conservative/Traditionalists must look beyond one man one vote in presenting a vision of the future of this republic.
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