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Conquerer
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4/12/2003
16:34:07
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 Subject: Lawrence Auster: Neocon Warmonger
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Why does Lawrence Auster persist in promulgating his dangerous pro-war propaganda? He just doesn't get it. The war on Iraq is immoral, unjust, and damaging--perhaps fatally--to the Republic. The only ones on the Right who support it are the neoconservatives and the Israel Firsters. By the way, this is the same Lawrence Auster who's been shopping his manuscript on immigration and multiculturalism around to publishers. So far, no takers. I understand it's rather shabby. Just like his thinking on the Iraq war.
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Shawn
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5/03/2003
19:11:42
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"Why does Lawrence Auster persist in promulgating his dangerous pro-war propaganda?"
Speaking for myself, and not for Lawrence, I supported the Iraq war because of the very real threat resulting from the intersection of Arab Socialism, Islamic findamentalism, stateless terrorists, and those states, like Iraq, who in one way or another gave support, aid and comfort to terrorists. Since the end of the military action two major international terrorists have been captured in Iraq, one responsible for the murder of an American citizen, and one with direct links to Al-Qaeda. On top of that documents have been found showing clear links and support for Al-Qaeda by Saddam's regime.
Remember 911?
" The only ones on the Right who support it are the neoconservatives and the Israel Firsters."
Rubbish. Many conservatives who do not fit into the neoconservative camp supported the war, myself included. Bush and Cheney are not neocons, they come from the Southwest Goldwater/Reagan wing of the party. I support America First policies on economics and immigration, but I also believe in a foriegn policy that avoids the extremes of neocon imperialism on the one hand, and gutless paleocon isolationism on the other. Our nation, and the entire West, is faced with real threats from international and imperialist Islam. Either we face those threats and and defeat them militarily, as Martel did at Tours against and the Islamic Arabs, and the brave defenders of Vienna did against the Islaimic Turks, or our enemy will take our inaction for cowardice, as bin Laden took Clinton's as, and we will see yet more attacks upon our nations and citizens.
Since when did being a conservative mean being a pacifist coward?
The rest of your post is a silly and childish personal attack.
For myself, I find it hard to take seriously anyone calling themselves Conquerer accusing someone else of being a warmonger.
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John
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5/09/2003
23:06:59
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Here, here Shawn!
You could also throw St. Ignatius into the mix:
"On August 6, 1552, Ignatius sent two letters of reflection and instruction to Jesuit Father Jerome Nadal, who was sojourning in Sicily at the time to promulgate the newly written Constitutions of the Order. At the end, Ignatius instructed this Jesuit delegate to add one more task to these duties: he wanted Nadal to visit the Holy Roman Emperor, Charles V, to convince the emperor to join in Ignatius’ grandly conceived plan to sweep the Turkish navy from the Mediterranean. As the editor and English translator of these missives, William Young, S.J., notes in his Letters of St. Ignatius of Loyola (Loyola University Press, 1959): "The plan reveals a broad political vision and no common gifts of organization. But no less interesting are the general principles which rule the project, and especially the supernatural motives so familiar in the saint’s spiritual outlook which are at the base of the plan" [emphasis added]."
Read the first letter.
http://www.firstthings.com/ftissues/ft0201/correspondence.html
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